@Rajk999 saidIt's amazing you keep saying this no matter how many times you are corrected.
Wrong. The Jews were living there for thousands of years. Palestine never belonged to the Arabs. It was under Ottoman control and more recently was part of the British Empire. Then the British allowed the Jews to set up a state in Palestine along with Arabs.
So its either they welcome the Jews or get slaughtered. They chose the latter. They are stupid people.
The British did not "allow the Jews to set up a State in Palestine"; they didn't even vote for the Partition Plan at the UN (they abstained). The simply announced a date the mandate would expire and left leaving the Zionists and the Arabs to decide the issue by force.
@no1marauder saidYou can post your rubbish all you like.
It's amazing you keep saying this no matter how many times you are corrected.
The British did not "allow the Jews to set up a State in Palestine"; they didn't even vote for the Partition Plan at the UN (they abstained). The simply announced a date the mandate would expire and left leaving the Zionists and the Arabs to decide the issue by force.
The fact is that it is the Peel Commission of 1937 [from the UK], who first suggested and drew up the Partition Plan. The UN simply adpoted the plan. Other big British names were Balfour, Churchill and others who were in favour of giving the Jews a national home. The fact that they abstained at the UN means nothing. They did all the ground work for getting the Jews a homeland in Palestine.
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@Rajk999 saidYou're wrong as usual. The facts I gave are correct and show they did not establish a Jewish State in Palestine. Heck, they didn't even recognize Israel diplomatically until 1950:
You can post your rubbish all you like.
The fact is that it is the Peel Commission of 1937 [from the UK], who first suggested and drew up the Partition Plan. The UN simply adpoted the plan. Other big British names were Balfour, Churchill and others who were in favour of giving the Jews a national home. The fact that they abstained at the UN means nothing. They did all the ground work for getting the Jews a homeland in Palestine.
"1950
Israel opened diplomatic relations with the UK after the latter’s formal recognition of the State of Israel in April," https://embassies.gov.il/england/en/the-embassy/bilateral-relations
Neither the Peel Commission Report nor the Partition Plan were ever implemented because of opposition from the majority of Palestine's People.
@no1marauder saidLocal Arabs did not have to accept anything, neither do they have to recognise Israel. The region was a British Overseas Territory and the Queen could have done whatever they wanted with it. So they partitioned it, and gave part to the Jews and part to the Arabs. If they dont like it thats tough. They fought and they got clobbered. They love to fight, and clearly they enjoy losing as well.
You're wrong as usual. The facts I gave are correct and show they did not establish a Jewish State in Palestine. Heck, they didn't even recognize Israel diplomatically until 1950:
"1950
Israel opened diplomatic relations with the UK after the latter’s formal recognition of the State of Israel in April," https://embassies.gov.il/england/en/the-embassy/bilateral-relati ...[text shortened]... Partition Plan were ever implemented because of opposition from the majority of Palestine's People.
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@Rajk999 saidJesus H Christ, how many times do you have to be shown you are absolutely wrong before you get it through your empty head?
Local Arabs did not have to accept anything, neither do they have to recognise Israel. The region was a British Overseas Territory and the Queen could have done whatever they wanted with it. So they partitioned it, and gave part to the Jews and part to the Arabs. If they dont like it thats tough. They fought and they got clobbered. They love to fight, and clearly they enjoy losing as well.
Palestine was never a "British Overseas Territory"; it was a Mandate granted by the League of Nations and Britain was not free to do whatever they pleased with it. Read this, you idiot:
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp
And the British absolutely did not partition it, they didn't even vote for the never implemented Partition Plan.
Plus the Zionists started fighting against the Arabs and the British in Palestine long before 1948, including when the Empire was at war with the Nazis.
I know you're a sociopathic racist but can't any bit of reality stick into what you laughingly consider a brain?
@sh76 saidBut I'd settle for them making peace with the fact that they're not going to drive all the Jews into sea.
Open arms is a stretch, okay. But I'd settle for them making peace with the fact that they're not going to drive all the Jews into sea.
Well good luck with that; you're going to need it! 🙄
@no1marauder saidWell for all practical purposes, it was British. The British won the war and defeated the Ottoman Empire. They eventually issued all residents with British passports. They set up a government, military, police, schools, hospital. The British did all the work, along with the Jews who assisted in setting up national infrastructure like electricity, water, which was lacking all over Palestine.
Jesus H Christ, how many times do you have to be shown you are absolutely wrong before you get it through your empty head?
Palestine was never a "British Overseas Territory"; it was a Mandate granted by the League of Nations and Britain was not free to do whatever they pleased with it. Read this, you idiot:
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp
An ...[text shortened]... e a sociopathic racist but can't any bit of reality stick into what you laughingly consider a brain?
Then we have the League of Nations coming in and wanting to take control and calling the shots just to please the lazy Arab community who did nothing to set up a functioning state. As usual they are failures.
If you have a British Passport, that means you are a British citizen.
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@Rajk999 saidI don't care about that either way. What I do care about is the State of Israel slaughtering innocent Muslim women and children by the thousands, then trying to play the role of the "persecuted ones" whenever a few hundred Jews are taken hostage.
Do you really think there is some force on this planet that can drive the Jews into the sea?
@AThousandYoung saidAnd how can the people of Gaza be sure the zionists will not genocide their people again?
The USA is an Anglo Saxon dominated country. Nobody is going to genocide your people from this country.
Jews can never be sure about that. Anglo Saxons are very closely related to Germans. You never know when they’re going to turn into Nazis. Their criminals already tattoo Swazis all over themselves including their faces.
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@sh76 saidYou opinions are nonsensical and void of reality. Do you think Jews are the only people that have suffered through genocide? I don't see you empathizing with the people of Rwanda and how nobody gave a damn about them. Who came to their rescue? Not the USA, that is for sure.
I like the USA and I don't intend to leave any time soon.
But when you ask why Jews choose to move to Israel...
Aside from religious reasons, which may be part of it - he's a fact that you're probably not going to be able to wrap youd mind around, but so goes it...
Jews are treated very well in the US, by and large, but from history, we know that this doesn't always las ...[text shortened]... Nobody is trying to exterminate you. Bully for you.
We don't have the luxury of your complacency.
And you have a solution of zionism that makes no sense either. First of all, they are surrounded by Palestinians that resent them. Hardly escaping persecution, are they? And Israel is a proxy of the USA. A proxy that is openly hostile to Iran upon US command for no good reason. Iran never threaten to nuke Israel. But Israel has bombed Iran without provocation.
Israel was created by the British empire. It is part of the empire. Our country is part of the empire. That is why our government gives Israel free military weapons. That is why Netanyahu is allowed to address the US congress. The UK is part of the empire. That is why king Charles is allowed to address the US congress. That is why BBC America is broadcast on PBS. The propaganda is interchangeable. King Charles is probably a major shareholder of the federal reserve system.
Go down swinging? That seems crazy of you to say. Is that the best you could come up with? Israel is not even the homeland of Jews. They migrated there from Iraq. Iraq is their homeland, not Palestine. Not that European Jews have much middle eastern DNA and have a claim to the middle east at all. They have mostly European DNA. But Rothschilds did not care about any of that.
The Rothschilds are largely to blame for German anti-Semitism. It is a shame the Nazi took it out on all Jews. You can watch a Nazi propaganda film about them called "Die Rothschild".
@sh76 saidAny reason US taxpayers should pay for this aggressive paranoia?
I like the USA and I don't intend to leave any time soon.
But when you ask why Jews choose to move to Israel...
Aside from religious reasons, which may be part of it - he's a fact that you're probably not going to be able to wrap youd mind around, but so goes it...
Jews are treated very well in the US, by and large, but from history, we know that this doesn't always las ...[text shortened]... Nobody is trying to exterminate you. Bully for you.
We don't have the luxury of your complacency.
@paradox4 saidThe solution is simple pal. Do not attack and kill Jews, otherwise the consequences are disastrous. What is happening in Gaza is well deserved. I hope they learn and do not repeat what they did on Oct 7th 2023.
I don't care about that either way. What I do care about is the State of Israel slaughtering innocent Muslim women and children by the thousands, then trying to play the role of the "persecuted ones" whenever a few hundred Jews are taken hostage.
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@no1marauder saidI imagine you're not going to buy the bulwark against Islamic terrorism argument or the reliable ally and base in the middle east argument, so there's no real point in making them here.
Any reason US taxpayers should pay for this aggressive paranoia?
So, I'll just say that the 3 billion dollars a year, which basically all has to be given back to American manufacturers, making the whole program a form of Keynesian economic stimulation, is such a small cost (it's about 1% of the amount the GAO says we spend annually just in improper payments), that tsk'ing about it can only come from opposition to the principle of the matter, not the dollar amount.
@paradox4 saidExhibit A on why we're not relying on people like you to determine what Israel can and cannot do to defend itself.
But I'd settle for them making peace with the fact that they're not going to drive all the Jews into sea.
Well good luck with that; you're going to need it! 🙄